Does the temple need to be rebuilt?

Q. Does the Jewish temple need to be rebuilt before Jesus returns?

A. With the constant turmoil always threatening stability in the Middle East, many Bible commentators are speculating louder than ever about whether the Jewish temple will be rebuilt in the months and years to come. Entire Christian ministries are established to assist in the building of the temple to hasten the return of Jesus. For many, such an event will signal the start of the final events of earth’s history.

However, in the same way many Christians misplace the focus from spiritual Israel to the literal Jewish nation, they are also confused on the subject of the temple. Most of the speculation for a rebuilt temple springs from a vague reference in 2 Thessalonians 2 dealing with the Antichrist power: “That day shall not come … [until] that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God” (vs. 3, 4).

Many say that for the Antichrist to sit in the temple, it will obviously have to be rebuilt.

Those who support this belief are known as Christian Zionists, and they include such popular writers as Hal Lindsey, Tim LaHaye, and John Hagee. Their published book sales exceed 70 million copies—including the popular Left Behind series. Their beliefs are endorsed by some of the largest theological colleges and institutions.

But are they correct? To begin, let’s go to 1 Chronicles 17:11, 12: “It shall come to pass ... that I will raise up thy seed after thee, which shall be of thy sons; and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build me an house, and I will stablish his throne for ever.” This prophecy given to King David says his offspring will build the temple. Later, in 1 Chronicles 28:6, God reaffirms, “Solomon thy son, he shall build my house and my courts.”

But this text is also one of the clearest examples of a dual prophecy found in Scripture. Dual prophecies have both a physical and spiritual fulfillment. Indeed, Solomon, the son of David, built the physical temple. But this prophecy also applies spiritually to Jesus, the true “Son of David,” who is to build a temple and kingdom that will last forever.

Jesus’ prophecy that the pride of the Jewish nation, the temple, would be destroyed inspired the most intense rejection of His teachings. (See Matthew 24:1, 2.) In John 2:19, Jesus says, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” Of course, Jesus is speaking of rebuilding a temple—not of stone and nails, but of living stones (1 Peter 2:5). Yet many refused to grasp this teaching (John 2:20, 21). They even mocked Jesus on the cross regarding His prophecy (Matthew 27:40).

Yet when Jesus died, the veil in the earthly temple ripped in two from the top to bottom, signifying that the temple no longer held meaning. A temple for sacrifice today would be as useless as it was then, and it would not be the house of God.

The New Testament is replete with the idea that the temple is the body of Jesus. Ephesians 2:19–22 says, “Ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God: And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.” (See also 1 Peter 2:5.)

Even after God provides all this clear evidence that His temple is a spiritual one, many Christians are waiting for the Jews to receive a construction permit to rebuild a physical temple on the site where a Muslim mosque now sits. However, there is no prophecy, promise, or commandment in the Bible that says the physical temple would ever be rebuilt after the Romans razed it nearly 2,000 years ago.

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The Volumes of Truth
"Thus says The Lord: Again I say to you, My church has no walls, and is called by no other name except the name The Father has given Me. Its members are of one mind and one spirit, of one love, one flock with one Shepherd, a people set apart who keep The Commandments of The Father and remain faithful to The Son, striving always to walk in My ways. For those who truly know Me dwell in Me, and I in them. For they are Mine, even as I am theirs also - My body, My bride.
Therefore woe to any church of men, who claims to be the true church and remnant. Woe, I say to them. For they have placed themselves in the seat of The Father, and therefore remain under God’s judgment. For none walk according to the Truth, not one accepts Me as I truly am; all have gone astray, teaching as doctrine the commandments of men.
Beloved, no one can come to Me, unless The Father who sent Me draws them to Me. And only those who accept Me as I truly am are of My body, for The Truth resides within them and is revealed by their works. Yes, even these stumble in their walk, for they are but flesh. Yet I am He who searches the hearts and minds, I know My own; I know whose love is steadfast, whose faith is unmoving. And this is the True Church My people long for, the remnant which now is and is yet to come. For it is not found outwardly in the world, but inwardly, in the temple of God. I am The Lord."

(From The Volumes of Truth, Volume Two, an excerpt from "One Truth, One Church, One Body... No Walls")
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CherryL
Amen 🙏
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Paul
Great commentary!
So-called scholars have led many astray over the years. David Wilkerson and Hal Lindsay had many selling their homes and moving to the country. Completely disrupting the lives of those who trusted them. All the while they were laughing all the way to the bank making millions from their book sales. Not one apology when it was clear they were so wrong.
I call so-called scholars educated idiots who overlook the very basics of putting into practice 2nd Timothy 2:15.
Scripture explains scripture and context is of utmost importance., not to mention the study tool called hermeneutics. They would know that there must be another interpretation for their flawed teaching if they remembered these basics.
When Jesus died on the cross He said "It is finished", and as you mentioned the curtain was torn from top to bottom. Our heavenly Father would never insult His Son's complete, perfect, and final sacrifice by condoning a third temple and animal sacrifices to be part of His plan.
Pre-trib rapture, the rebuilding of the third temple with animal sacrifices, and Heliocentrismtism were all brought into the church near the same timeline. False teachings became mainstream by students of "Scholars" who became very good at regurgitating the garbage they were fed.
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Cianna
I totally agree with your comments, especially, ”Our heavenly Father would never insult His Son's complete, perfect, and final sacrifice by condoning a third temple and animal sacrifices to be part of His plan”. I have prayed and pondered over the statements made by some preachers but the HolySpirit has led me in His truth and scripture clearly states that it is not a temple built with human hands, which would be superfluous anyway as Christ completed his complete and perfect sacrifice on the cross.
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Graham Stubbs
Hi the greek word for Temple in ' so he sets himself up in God's temple '( 2 Thess 2:4) should be translated ' sanctuary' (G/k 3724, strongs 3485) . This means building the tabernacle next to the 'dome of the rock' will fulfill this verse and also ' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering and on the wing of the temple, he will set up an abomination that causes desolation' (Dan 9:27). Regards Graham
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TomPalermo
Thank you for clearly explaining that the temple will not be rebuilt so many I miss lead. I love to hear more from you, tom palermo, Naperville, Illinois.
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Christian X
Peace be with you! The Lord Jesus Christ is the Eternal Risen Temple in which presides the Shekinah Glory of God. The Church- the Body of Christ- is now part of that Living Temple as we are also indwelt by the Holy Spirit... We need to remember that today and evermore as we walk by faith in hope and love. Amen!
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CaptainMike
Exactly right! There is no temple in the kingdom. Read Rev 21 which states the tablenacle will dwell among men and “he” …. a person. Verse 22 Jesus is the temple. Jesus told us he is the temple that will be rebuilt in 3 days. God did not want the temple, he wanted the tabernacle and gave lengthy instructions. Building a temple was actually a violation of his law that the alter should be of unhewn stone. I could go on and on.
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Jessica
I came out of the brethren assemblies, a denomination that is hyper focused on dispensationalism, rebuilding the temple the rapture, the separation of Israel and the church, and supporting national Israel. I was heavily indoctrinated in that due to my father's obsession with it. However the I learned of Jesus sacrifice and how clearly Hebrews explains it, I began to be appalled at the idea of putting up the veil that Jesus tore down, and offering sacrifices after the true Passover lamb has been sacrificed once for all. It seems like utter blasphemy. Since realizing that, scripture has started making so much more sense.
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Robert kearbey
Thank you for clearly covering that
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j57little
There is a growing set of data points that suggest that the temple mound is not the temple mound at all, but rather, Fortress Antonias, built by the Romans just north of the actual temple site. Roman coins found under the foundations of the "temple mound" are strong evidence that the world is looking at the wrong place for where any future temple should be built. The location of Herod's temple site was lost to history because it had been so thoroughly torn down by the Romans as Jesus predicted. The large, flat plain of fortress Antonias would have been compelling to anyone trying to locate the temple site. For centuries the historian Josephus was considered highly accurate and detailed in all of his accounts, but regarding the temple and its location, scholars could never make sense of his comments - he was just wrong, or so they thought, assuming that Fortress Antonias was the actual temple site. If you consider the temple site to have been in the City of David, then Josephus's comments make sense. The bottom line is that the Jews could rebuild a temple and it would have nothing to do with the dome of the rock that is built on an old Roman fortress site. That being said, if Jesus is the temple as suggested in 1 Peter, then the point is moot.
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Christ Is King
We’re told in Matthew 24:2
‘There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down’

If not one stone is left upon another, theres no wall remaining.
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Dennis
This is exactly what I have been telling Christians for decades. Jesus Himself is the Temple and in that temple we worship. However, I can see where
unbelieving Jews may attempt to rebuild a temple. The false christ may attempt to indwell there to satisfy those false Jews. Christ made it clear that true Jews are those who believe as Abraham believed and it was 'accounted to him for righteousness. There are a lot of believers in Jesus who may be terribly confused over this matter when the realize that God does not dwell in a temple built with hands.
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Mark
I agree with you 100% If the Jews did build a new Temple, it would be meaningless as stated. The Jews Messiah has already come and they rejected him as prophecy tells us. The building of the Temple would have no meaning to God either, to sin against an eternal God requires an eternal sacrifice made through the lamb of God. His son Jesus Christ.
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dana
Please tell me where it says at the 2nd coming of Jesus, His feet will not touch the ground. This is causing me great consternation . I would appreciate a response in a forthright manner. Respectfully, Dana schultz.
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IVAN
Hey Dana, I am just here searching and saw your question, I think they are referring to Zec 14:4-5
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Shannon
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1 Thess 4:17
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Cindy
His sign will appear in the sky and the angels will collect the elect from the four corners of the earth to meet Him in the sky--no feet on the ground.
His second commig is after the judgment when the elect will reign with Him for 1000 years until armadegon. See Matthew 24
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Beliver 5644
The 1000 years is not literal. Jesus said his kingdom is not of this earth. There is no reason for a earthly reign of 1000 years.
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ShannonR
Please watch Pastor Dougs presentation on Armageddon at pinnaclesofprophecy. Armageddon is at the 7th plague. It is when the wicked will make their final effort to wipe out God's people and He will come to deliver them
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AR
Wow, aptly written with only the scripture as proof!
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Cindy
But he still didn't explain 2Thessalonians 2:4
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Shannon
There are religious leaders who claim to be the voice or take the place of God here on earth. I dont think it means a literal physical temple but figuratively. they claim the perogatives of God
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swanden
So glad I found this article, where can I find more on this subject. I've been trying to find where in the Bible as reads that we should rebuild the Temple can't find it anywhere.
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Raymond
Please are we going to see our love one in heaven, when we get to heaven?
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Wreath
As goes the conversations that I’ve had with a (supposed) Freemason, that Jesus is the new temple, according to Revelation, yet crack open any Masonic Bible and see they are obsessed with the blueprints of Solomon’s Temple, much like Isaac Newton when he started going mad. This is why the Bible differentiates between God’s smooth stones He builds His church out of, and stonecutters and “crafts”-men who think they do God’s work without actually doing the work Jesus told them to do—save the Jews, not their building.
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Jessica
Wow, that last sentence is amazing
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Angel 😇
I would support rebuilding the temple/synagogue where Jesus spread his teachings to thousands. Not changing the appearance but rebuilding what was once there.
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Shannon
It would be meaningless. the objective of the temple and all its ceremonies pointed to Jesus. The sacrifice of the lamb symbolized the sacrifice of the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. These ceremonies were supposed to put the sacrifice of Jesus in the forefront of their minds. If you read the book of Hebrews, it tells us that these earthly ceremonies only pointed to Jesus and it was His sacrifice Once, for all that made the temple rituals unnecessary. That is why the veil that separated the Holy Place from the Most Holy Place was torn when He died.
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arl
Your perspective on the proposition of a literal Jewish temple being rebuilt in Jerusalem makes sense to me. Whenever I hear people talk about rebuilding a Jewish temple in Jerusalem and reinstating the animal sacrifices, I ask ‘Isn’t that an abomination to The LORD, because it’s a rejection of the once for all sacrifice that Jesus made for our sins on the cross?’
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zak
The Jews don't believe in Jesus, so if they rebuild the Temple, what good would it do them? A Temple is not needed anymore for Christians.
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Cindy
They are still under law if rhey don't believe in Jesus and are required to make a sacrifice for rheir sin
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Farrah B
No, God does not require the Jews to make sacrifices for sin. Jesus’ death was the final, completed work of atonement. That is why God allowed the temple to be destroyed. The only acceptable sacrifice in God’s eyes for ANYONE is the sacrifice Jesus made on the cross.
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Jim
I may concede that in Christian teachings there is no requirement for the Temple to be built a third time. I have heard it said by a Protestant preacher that after the gift of Christ. the Jews' contribution to mankind has been fulfilled and they play no greater part in Biblical prophecy than do others. ( I did not say that I necessarily subscribe to that viewpoint.) But what about in Jewish teachings and prophecies? I realize the Old Testament is a holy book of the Jews. Apparently the Pentateuch seems to be particularly holy to Jews. At least, it seems they put more emphasis on the first five books. My question is, is there a prophecy of the rebuilding of the Temple in Jewish teachings? Are those books not also the sacred word of God, even if they do not embrace the Word as we know Jesus Christ? In other words, even though a prophecy of the rebuilding of the Temple may NOT be in Christian teachings, is it, or is it not in Jewish prophecy?
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Shannon
There was a prophecy to rebuild, but it was after the first one was destroyed. Solomon built one that was torn down by babylon. It was rebuilt in the time of Artaxerxes. Herod rebuilt and made a very beautiful. There is no prophecy for it to be rebuilt after Jesus died. He was the perfect sacrifice and it is an abomination to think you can continue to sacrifice and it would mean anything. It is not believing what He did for us. If you read Hebrew it tells you this. He died ONCE for ALL. The blood of animals only pointed to Him.
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Srdanner
This OT promise of rebuilding was fulfilled. The first temple was destroyed by Nubuchadnezzar when the Israelites were taken into captivity. It was rebuilt by Herod and stood during the time of Jesus. All NT references to temples are spiritual or refer to our bodies, or Christ.
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Coupe633
I think you mean Zurubbabel rebuilt the temple after the Jews returned from Babylon (and Persia). Several centuries later right before Christ was born, Herod expanded and beautified the temple and it's complex.
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JPS
That's my point too.
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zak
There is no prophecy for rebuilding the actual brick and mortar Temple again. Some people think that certain OT passages do support a rebuilding, but they are taking it literally, when it should be only taken spiritually. Jesus is the new Temple. No more animal sacrifices are needed.
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Mark
i have been thinking upon the same lines the tearing up of the veil signifying the doing away of the old and building a new temple without hands a spiritual building which we are .The prophecy of bringing back the Jews to Israel there land is definitely a part of end time prophecy the final dealings with Israel will take place without any help from you and me our mission is to proclaim the gospel that Jesus saves Jesus forgives Jesus sets free and Jesus offers us eternal life to life with Jesus for all of eternity
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Shannon
If you read in the NT, it says Israel of today is anyone who believes in Christ and follows Him. It says you are not Israel just because you belong to the bloodline. They rejected Him and had Him crucified. Read Rom 9.
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citizen soldier
could it be the dome is the abomination of desolation and calling it's religion the god?
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making islam the antichrist
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PREACHER OLD WOMAN
The HS resides in us. He is the fulfillment of God and Jesus. I say that God only knows the coming of his son. It was no longer necessary to have a temple made of stones. How can God sit at His own right side. ?? There are many denominations. The HS leads us into all wisdom. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shall be SAVED. We seem to believe what we want. I could put a lot of scripture ref. down , but that would only confuse the Great Commission. To lead others to Christ, and in this day and age we need Him. Look around you and see if you can tell why anything grows, why we aren't hit by floating objects from space, or what is conscience being. We are without excuse. We , by nature need saving, and Jesus paid the price. Try Him, the HS, in your life. Money does not fulfill anyone. We all must die, and we need need sacrifice for sin. It takes in ALL of us, not a church. Just saying! From many years of walking with the LORD.
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Cindy
So 2Thessalonians 2:4 the antichrist sets himself up in what temple?
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Christopher Anderson
The antichrist sets himself up in the heart's of men. The temple now is our body. When people worship the antichrist, he sits down on the throne of God.
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EstebanM
This is speaking of Antichrist, not the popular Mr. Sinister that no one seems to know anything about. Some teach he's a jew others half man half demon. Others are teaching he's a homosexual etc...
The Reformational Protestant view is that Antichrist is the papacy and that 2 thessalonians 2:4 is fulfilled in the middle ages when the papacy sat supreme to rule the church, God's temple 1 corinthians 3:16. This is historical fact. Rome is trying to gain back what she lost, power to rule, through the earthquake that was caused by the Protestant reformation of the 16 the century
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JV
You know I've been bothered by the stuff Because we all know that we don't know when our time will come and we all know that deep down we will live a long life for many generations to come will be on this earth Until the day we grow of old age and soon our children will carry on our generations You know what I'm actually really happy I read this because now I could finally put this nonsense to rest because I prayed That there would be hope for our future
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Jonathan Hoodenpyle
I truly believe what you are saying. There are times people miss understand what the scripture is really saying. We sometimes preach what we have been taught instead of researching the scripture for ourselves.
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Max777
Thats very unfair, and happens to many people on any side of a"discussion"
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Scott
The first part of Ezekiel 37 describes the resurrection,
Eze 37:12  say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of their graves.

1Th 4:16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 
1Th 4:17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 
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Dan 12:1  And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 
Dan 12:2  And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

The two sticks in the book of Ezekiel 37  represent the two branches (natural and grafted in) or the Jews and the Christians or Joseph's (Jesus') two sons or two churches, the table of shewbread-12 loaves (Jews) and the 7 lamp candlestick (Christians) 7 Churches in Revelation.

Eze 37:21  And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: This takes place after the resurrection, Satan's counterfeit (bring them into their own land) is what occurred in 1948

Eze 37:27  My tabernacle (Temple) also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 
Eze 37:28  And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary (Temple) shall be in the midst of them for evermore. 

Rev 21:22  And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
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Student
You're spot on. It's not Gods will that the temple would ever be rebuilt. The mosque is on the site of the fortress of Antonio. That place is not where Solomons Temple stood anyway. Religions are confounded by the darkness of misguided traditions..
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Jim
God described how the temple is to be built to Ezekiel. The Temple was described in fine detail, the same as everything else that was to be physically built. In my opinion, the Temple will be built?
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Srdanner
After the first temple built by Solomon was destroyed, it was rebuilt by Herod and that was the temple that stood when Jesus was alive. His description to Ezekiel is not about a third temple but the 2nd temple. during Ezekiels time, Herods temple was not built
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Thelly
Dear Jim, Where in end-time prophecy in Daniel and The Revelation does the third temple fit in?
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Pastor Doug, Daniel 12:4 talks of sealed up until end times...well it's the END...I was told by (what I firmly believe to be the Holy Spirit) a voice 3 days after 9/11 to read Rev 18:...it said it 3x as I was driving East on I-80 in Nebraska...finally it was after 11pm and I was tired looking for a y pull off...so after hearing the voice the 3red time I prayed...please help me to find a place...ok... I saw a small dirt area by a stand of trees with a huge field beyond...Grabbed my Bible and read...Babylon is mentioned...ok...but what was the biggest city back when John penned Revelation...uh huh...also I see 3 times it says..." in one hour it was gone"...ships Captains outfit see cried out...seeing the smoke of its burning...No proof Pastor Doug...but like your prayer of what's the best religion/church(I read your story and am from close by Taquitz...) My Mother(RIP) Taught Sabbath School in Dobbins close by you now...To me 18 is the WTC of 9/11 in 2001...now that's AMAZING...Now my question is; WHAT TIME IS IT???...Sincerely Yours in Jesus Christ...Sparky
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Steve
I have been amazed at how much of the teaching about end times in our day is based more on sensationalism than on Scripture. Jesus is coming again, that is clearly taught in the Scripture. Jesus' emphasis on teaching of His return is in parables and can be summed up in the words blessed is the servant who when his master returns finds him busy to the work he was assigned to do. Jesus never assigned the building of a temple, the drawing of time charts or trying to figure out the time of Hi return. He gave us a job to do ---"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe ALL THINGS that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Matthew 20::19-20 (Emphasis mine)

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Anonymous
If the Bible says Jesus will not dwell in a temple built by hands, where will he rule from during the millennium? Will he sit at a temple that once had the Antichrist?
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Srdanner
A temple built by hands refers to one constructed by man. During the millennium we will be in heaven. There will be no more temples constructed by hands
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Thelly
1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 show that the saved resurrected and living meet Jesus in the air.
Revelation 20:4-6 show the saved in heaven for a thousand years reigning with Jesus.
So Jesus would not touch earth at His second coming.
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Anonymous
When Jesus said "Destroy this temple and in three days I will make it rise," as Scripture SAYS , "The temple He spoke of was His BODY!"
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Anonymous
hey fish, the apostle knows that the temple of God is not made of stones and nails but of living stones. why build another temple if you are already the temple of God? does not make any sense.
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Anonymous
Wow I am shocked you conveniently left out Thess 2:4He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God. This is a physical temple since it is impossible for the Antichrist to have the holy spirit.. This is so clear that is why Paul and Christ said it. Matt 24:15"So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,' spoken of through the prophet Daniel--let the reader understand--. Study on my brother this is the same reason why I don't believe in the rapture happening until after the tribulation. Just check when it occurs, at the sound of last trumpet. Remember there are 7. They all happen during tribulation. I believe you are completely wrong based in the scriptures that are clear.
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pjmiller
The letters which make up the books of the new Testament, were written before AD70, prior to the Temples destruction. Taking that into account, Jesus' words about the abomination which makes desolate, plus an antichrist who sets himself up in God's Temple, proclaiming himself God occurred between the time of Jesus' resurrection and the destruction of the city and Temple in AD70. Check out the abominations which took place during this time period: there was more than one. Also check out what has been written about the Roman army and what they did with their shields, once the city (and Temple) were destroyed.
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Anonymous
AMEN Fish, your the only one on here that has real correct knowledge on the Temple and the Rapture. These guy's are trying to relate the jews to the church which are not part of the (Body) Temple therefore they are Looking to rebuild the the third (physical) Temple which they are preparing to rebuild and that they can look up on the internet. They have been working for years to get the Red Heifer genetically pure for the cleansing of location where the Temple will be rebuilt and have been working on a prefabricated Temple so that it won't take forty years to build so that they can return to their TRUE form of Worship and atonement which has been lost for over 2000 years. That's how they discover who the real Messiah is because they and the false Christians will be deceived into thinking that the Antichrist is their Massiah and who only find out when he sits in the Temple of God showing himself to be god. So Ricky Raider and Valentina are totally ignorant and novices and false Christians which believe in the Trinity, which is un biblical. God is one Deut 6:4, Mark 12:29, Colossians 2:9; 1:15-17; Isaiah 42:5; 43:10,11; 44:24; 45:5,6,15,21,22,23; John 1:1,3,10,11,12,14 Yeshua (Jehovah our Saviour) The Jews don't believe in the Trinity except the Messianic jews who have it wrong because God has blinded them for the time of the Gentiles. The other TRUE believing Jews know that God is one and their that their ONE GOD was going to come down in flesh and save them Isaiah 43:10,11; 45:15 and 35:4,5,6 - this is the scripture that Jesus answered when John the Baptist asked him is he the one or shall we look for another. Jesus didn't answer him with a yes or no he Quoted Isaiah 35:3,5,and 6. That's why false Christians come up with another Gospel 2 Corinthians 4:3,4. The TRUE Gospel is something that you have to OBEY that SAVES YOU 2 Thessalonians 1:8 which is in the Book of Acts 2:38 where the first 3000 Souls were saved and close to 10,000 Souls were Saved through out that Book. If you so called got saved by another Gospel i.e. the SINNERS PRAYER which is UN BIBLICAL then you will be a Matthew 7:21-23 Christian. You must be BORN AGAIN OF THE WATER AND SPIRIT John 3:5 or you can't enter. When Jesus was talking to his Disciples in Matthew 28:19 they did as he said and as he MEANT...Acts 2:38 because they understood what he was saying because he opened their understanding Luke 24:45-47; Mark 16:15-18. Watch these false prophets because they don't know who God is and they don't know the TRUE GOSPEL 2 THESSALONIANS 1:8 They'll get you and your feelings HURT Matthew 7:23 and the Rapture is immediately after the Tribulation Matthew 24:29-31. JESUS CHRIST IS THE ALMIGHTY GOD...REVALUATION 1:7,8. Only the APOSTOLIC CHURCHES OR RELIGION PREACHES THIS TRUTH Acts 2:41,42. To those who have an Ear Let Them HEAR..Deuteronomy 6:4 what The SPIRIT IS SAYING. These False Guy's have Knowledge but DON'T KNOW THE TRUTH...2 Timothy 3:7. The WHOLE BIBLE IS ABOUT THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST..John 5:39; Revelation 1:1.
Jesus is the Father (Progenitor, Creator) John 14:7-10. Jesus is the Holy Spirit John 14:17,18. Jesus is the Son who was begotten or had a beginning when ALMIGHTY GOD BECAME FLESH MATTHEW 16:15,16; JOHN 1:1,10,11,14; ISAIAH 9:6. JUST LIKE A MAN CAN BE A FATHER, A SON AND A HUSBAND THAT DOESN'T MAKE HIM THREE SEPARATE OR THREE IN ONE . HE IS TRULY ONE AND HIS NAME IS ONE...Zachariah 14:9 NAME IS THE SAME AS FATHER OR SON OR HUSBAND. God had to take on a Body or Flesh and Blood to redeem the World unto himself Acts 20:26. The only way to get your SINS REMITTED OR FORGIVEN IS BY BEING BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS...LUKE 24:47; MATTHEW 26:28; ACTS 2:38; 10:43; 4:12; 8:12,35-39; 9:10-18; 10:43-48.
PLEASE LOOK THESE SCRIPTURES UP!!!! AND IF YOUR CALLED OF GOD MAY GOD OPEN YOUR UNDERSTANDING...2 THESSALONIANS 2:14*****
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Kay
Thank you for the teaching of the Truth. Praise God, the Holy One who is Jesus Christ. I looked up every single scriptures listed above. The Word Himself will reveal His identity.
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plaza_liz
Lots to absorb there. Thank you for sharing.
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rickyraider
Not a temple , he will do it in Jesus churches we have today that are being taken over by the culture of today and no longer preach the Gospel. where does it say in scripture a third temple needs to be built,? who is prancing around in our time now proclaiming to be God on earth? ,the false church rcc.
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pjmiller
If its referring to after AD70 then you are right, for the only Temple today, and for the last 2000 years, is the Body of Christ --The Church.
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Anonymous
The article above did quote that verse in Thess, and also, that verse is referring to the temple of God meaning the Christian church (temple of God) and that man of sin that sits in THAT temple (or what was thought to be the highest temple of it by the rulers - the throne of the Roman Catholic pope ) claiming to be God and exalting himself over all that is called god. That did and does the pope (see other resources here at Amazing Facts website on the Antichrist). This has nothing to do at all with the old Jewish temple. About the abomination of desolation, that had to do with the destruction of Jerusalem and the holy place referenced there is not talking about the temple but about the area immediately outside of the wall all around Jerusalem. There is information about that too on this website (look up abomination of desolation). And, lastly, there IS a literal temple in Heaven, as spoken of in Hebrews and in Revelation. But, that too is not the subject of the above article and is not in conflict with it.
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Sparky(The Orig One)
I saw a picture of Pope John Paul sitting in a chair(with what looked like an upside down cross cut into the back of that chair) supposedly sitting in a Jewish Temple back when he was traveling planet Earth...just before he hot shot(Rev 13) I'm looking for that picture now...
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Anonymous
Judaism is a false religion. A Jewish temple would not be a temple of God. They follow
the Kabbalah, which is Jewish Witchcraft. They say that Jesus was an imposter.
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Thelly
Just today I looked at an interview on a Jewish broadcast that mentioned also what you say here. It was a most interesting interview on current events.
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Anonymous
I thank you so much. The Holy Spirit has been leading and directing me for years to discount this theory that the temple needed to be rebuilt in order for Jesus to return. We should all pray for those sisters & brothers who feel as if God needs our help to bring about biblical prophecy. In Genesis 16:2, Sarah tried to help God, thinking that "it may be" that she might obtain children by Hagar. That didn't turn out too well. Matthew 23:38 Shows the Lord declaring that "their" house, not His house, is left to them desolate. "We are the temple of the Living God and the Spirit of God dwells in us." (1 Cor. 3:16) There is a new Jerusalem which is not built by hands, and it will descend out of heaven from God, and verse 22 says, "I saw no temple therein, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it." (Rev. 21:10-11,22) God has not forgotten Israel, but it is our job to pray that the Lord remove the veil which covers "some" of their hearts and minds. Instead of placing so much focus on helping God bring about His own Declared Prophetic Word, let us focus on being the trees of righteousness that He desires us to be, so that HE IS GLORIFIED!(Isaiah 61:3) Blessed be the Name of the LORD!
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Shazz
Amen
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Rob
Well said. Thank you.
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Anonymous
Please read John 8. The temple Jesus spoke of raising in three days was His BODY.
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shembwageta
Isn't that great? How many of us always thought the third Temple would not make sense with Christ in the Heavenly Temple.
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sharon_olvera
First off, we know Jesus was speaking of his body when he said “destroy this temple in three days, and I will raise it.” Second, I do not believe God is finished with the Jewish people and the Church was not created to take their place. And if I follow your arguments, then I can say that Jesus did not have to die a physical death either to save us.
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Anonymous
Where is it prophecy or where in Scripture says that the Temple has to be built before the return of our Lord? We should be like the Bereans in Act 17:11 searching the Holy Scriptures to see if this is so or not.
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Anonymous
I believe there is an answer to the two diverse positions being taken on this subject. Firstly it is true that the Old Covenant has been replaced by the New Covenant through the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore for the church of Christ – The redeemed – there is absolutely no point of a new physical third temple. However we must remember that the Jews rejected Jesus and it is they who still believe the temple is required. It is for this reason alone that the third temple will at some time be built, and it is this temple that God in his foreknowledge knows will be built and is included in His plan of end times.
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Max777
Makes sense. Im open to both. The temples that irael built was actually a representation of what is in heaven. Also, was fhere an abominafion of the temple after john wrote revelation? After daniel predicted this, it happened when Antiochus IV Epiphanes set up an idol to sacrfice to, and for Antiochus. It also consecrated in the time predicted. 1300 days orsomethinh. Did a ceaser do this before temple was destoyed? Where does the 3.5 yrs come into play, also the 1 horn that takesout 3. We kmow that beasts represent govenment and there power. And daniels prophesies are interpreted pretty literally, so Revelations should be as well. We should all agree to that.
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stvn509
I had heard that the ark of the covenant must be found? I haven't found anything stating that so was curious. I do believe we are very close. Prophecy being fulfilled at a rapid pace, churches are beginning to repeat of false doctrines while others seem to be hardening their hearts
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Tree
Look up Ron Wyatt...it has been found and kept silenced.
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Anonymous
It is hard to know whether the Jews in Israel will construct another temple or not. There is a lot of political tension in the middle east and at least at this point it would have to be done by force and that would certainly lead to war. From the beginning with Abel sacrificing from his herd down through Noah, Abraham, Issac and the sacrificial system that Moses instructed the children of Israel down through the first temple and then the second temple until the exact moment that Jesus uttered the words "It is finished" and He died and the veil separating the holy place from the Most Holy Place (God from man) in the Temple was torn from the top to the bottom by unseen hands, signifying that at that moment there was no longer any separation between the Creator and man. The only true sacrifice was paid by Jesus on the cross. As a Christian, if you do not understand what the meaning of the sacrifice system as symbolic pointing to the true and real sacrifice Jesus Christ and you are somehow hoping for a third temple then you have truly rejected Jesus Christ as the True sacrifice, as did the Jews 2000 years ago and would be now. If there is a third temple built and the resumption of the sacrificial system, all those who would support and encourage it would truly be denying Jesus Christ.
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Anonymous
Nowhere in the entire New Testament is there a single verse regarding a New Temple being built. Jesus Himself said that the Temple would be destroyed and "not one stone here shall be left upon another."
The Olivert Discourse sets the context for prophetic material described by Jesus in Matthew 24-25 where Jesus warned the Pharisees that their "house" the Temple would be left to them "desolate."
The temple He was discussing is the one that was then standing and totally destroyed by the Romans in 70 A.D.
When the Romans had taken Jerusalem Titus ordered his troops to dig up the very foundation of all of the city and the Temple which they did.
Whether it be Flavius Josephus the Palestinian Jewish historian or Terenyius Rufus or Eusebius, the Temples drstruction was complete, the old covenant no longer exists, the new covenant with Jesus Christ replaces the sacrificial system with lambs and goats as He is the Lamb of God (John 1:29: 2:13-22) and God's true "tabernacle" and dweling place (Heb. 8:2). With Christ the wall was removed (Eph. 2; 11-22) so there is no need for a temple of stone, or furniture, rebuilt etc. as Christ's sacrificial death
ended the Jewish age old covenant and Christ has begun the New Covenant with the saints.
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Rob
That was so well said, thank you.
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Anonymous
If the Romans tore up every stone of the temple even the foundation.....how do u explain the "whaling wall" still standing, one stone upon the other, @ the temple????
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rhondareichel
AMEN....same with the phrase Israel....the chosen people would never reject the Messiah.
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Anonymous
Many are expecting the Jerusalem temple to be rebuilt and as president made Jerusalem as the capital city and surrounding nations are under turmoil, what is your explanation and what is our stand on this move?
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stvn509
Jerusalem being set as the capital, America is moving it's embassy as are many countries to Jerusalem within the year. It speaks of Israel's enemies all turning their sights toward Israel. This will surely cause the next prophecy of war to fulfill
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Anonymous
Wrong. In Matthew 24, Jesus said when you SEE the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet standing in the HOLY PLACE let those in Judea flee for then there will be great tribulation..." This was not fulfilled in 70 AD, for Jesus goes on to say that this great tribulation would be followed by unprecedented cosmic signs and HIS RETURN in the clouds. The fulfillment is 1) future and 2) literal, since those in Judea would have to physically witness the abomination standing in the temple's holy place to know to flee the area!
Jesus referred to Daniel 9:24-27 in the above passage. In this prophecy, Daniel was told of a 7-year period, coming AFTER the destructions of 70 A.D., which would begin with a treaty. However, halfway through the 7 year period, the SACRIFICES & OBLATIONS would cease (referring to a resumption of temple functioning).
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stvn509
Is that in reference to the rapture or His second coming. Both are separate events. The rapture Christ returns in clouds, second coming He returns to the ground. Also the sacrificial lamb sacrifice started last year on a separate holy site. So it's no longer a matter of when it's started back up. It's already happening. You can find a article with the photos of the sacrifice and alter. It's very detail so I wouldn't show it to children
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PerplexedII
Some people would make bad detectives. When Jesus died on the cross the veil was rent in half from top to bottom signifying that the old sacrifice system was over and we could go directly to God with our repentance and prayers through Jesus' ultimate sacrifice. There is absolutely no point of a new physical temple.
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Anonymous
This is true. For those who follow Jesus Christ, there is absolutely no point in building a temple. However, Israel doesn’t follow Jesus. They are still waiting for their Messiah and still under the Law. I’m inclined to believe that the Jews will indeed rebuild their temple. What I’m not comfortable with is the idea that Believers help fund such a thing with the purpose of hastening Jesus’s return. Wouldn’t that rather be like encouraging someone in their unbelief? It’s for us to live now, today, in such a way that people are drawn to Jesus and the Truth, not organize things so Jesus returns on our timetable.
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Anonymous
What are some of the unfulfilled prophecies???
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Anonymous
Maybe it's the Vicar of Christ that becomes the temple and one world religion.
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longfordlord
Well the Red Heifer that is needed to be sacrificed with out blemish has been born/found and as I understand is or on it's way to Jerusalem ? Also the state of Israel will be in it's 70th year next year as Israel was recognized as a nation in 1948 ? So as they were exiled for 70yrs in Babylonia is next year the 70th week according to Daniel as we know God is symbolic as in the Jews being exiled for 70yrs and so is God letting there being a state of Israel for 70yrs ? And then the troubles start ? To which we are seeing the begings of now ?
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stvn509
Last year it was determined the lamb sacrifice can be performed without the ashes of the red heifer. While some tried and failed to access the temple to sacrifice a successful lawfully allowed procession of lamb sacrifices took place on a Holy site over looking the temple ruins. The sacrifices have resumed.
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Anonymous
The Bible says " when that which is perfect has come, that which is in part shall be taken away " . When Jesus the perfect Sacrifice was given, that which is in part (i.e., the Mosaic daily sacrifice) shall be taken away.
The Jews in their blindness continued with those old sacrifices until God sent Rome to awaken them ( take away the daily sacrifice ).
Jesus spoke of the destruction of the temple but not its rebuilding; one of the reasons he was rejected and ultimately crucified.
Stephen in Acts7 , because he was full of the Holy Spirit, spoke of the irrelevance of the temple ( God does not dwell in houses made with the hands of man ). They murdered him.
The book of Revelation is a book of symbols ( He send and SIGNIFIED by his angel), therefore you cannot apply Rev 11 to a physical temple.
One has to know the meaning of the symbols.
The only temple revealed in the New Testament is a Spiritual Temple
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76veteran
What a sad disillusioned discussion! If those promoting the idea that they "have it all figured out" and the physical 3rd temple must be rebuilt before Daniel's 70th week begins, they are being deceived exactly the way Satan wants them to be so when that 7 years actually begins will be in doubt. Every scriptural reference being quoted to establish that as fact are being misinterpreted. The 7 years will begin when Israel signs a peace accord with the falsely established "PLO." That will not be a "peace treaty" established by the two sides sitting down together to negotiate a resolution! It will be forced upon them if they even want to exist at all, by the onslaught of UN resolutions which establish all their actions in defense of their state as illegal before the international court! Mark it down!
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Anonymous
Very good teaching indeed! We are in a Jubilee year in which many "end of the age" prophecies have seen fulfillments in the heavens from the sun being darkened and the moon being turned red as blood... and they both happened on Jewish Feasts and Holy Days! Well... we are approaching the month of October in which the Fall Feasts "could" likely see major fulfillments... and no temple has been rebuilt yet! The New World Order has already been declared several times. This, I believe is truly showing that the times are approaching soon. This helped me better understand the teaching of the "rebuilding of the temple". Thanks a lot! God Bless!
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Anonymous
if the temple is to be rebuild it will be on there own accord, Jesus will never step unto a temple again the is build be he's, it's indeed a faults teaching (the is antichrist teaching).
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  1. The tribulation began May 20, 2011 when Netanyahu met with Obama. Obama literally confirmed that the relationship between Israel and the US was strong. But Obama is not the anti-Christ.
  2. 3.5 years * 360 days = 1260 days later on Oct 30, 2014 Netanyahu announced that Muslims pray at the Temple Mount and Jews just visit. To someone who is just watching his speech with no background information it appears as though he is taking away the right for Jews to sacrifice at the Temple Mount. I believe this is what Daniel.
  3. I believe that the iron in the feet of Daniel 2's statue is ISIS. They are strong and cruel and they show the true face of Islam. I think the clay in those feet is a Jewish traitor. I believe this is Yehuda Glick. I believe he is the abomination that has been appointed (to the knesset) by the Prime Minister. I believe he is one of the horns in the Beast from the Earth spoken of in Revelation. I believe his miraculous recovery was one of the wonders that the New Testament warned us about. I believe that Glick will trick many Jews and Christians into praying on the Temple Mount with muslims (i.e. demon-worshippers). This will break the first commandment "Thou shall have no other gods before Me".
    I believe that Daniel 7 is talking about ISIS. It's very odd that Daniel says that the first beasts were allowed to live for a season and a time. One season = 3 months = 90 days = 90 Bible years. One time = one Bible year. That adds up to 91 Bible years, which equals = 91*360/365.25 ~90 calendar years. The Ottoman empire was abolished in 1923. If we add 90 years to 1923 we get to 2013...which is when ISIS emerged.
    I believe that Daniel 8 is referring to 2 anti-Christs. The horn that grows strong to the east, south and Israel is ISIS. BUT I believe that Daniel starts talking about a completely different person - the false prophet, the wolf in sheep's clothing - later in Daniel 8. I believe that's what makes Daniel 8 so hard to understand - he's talking about both ISIS (the iron in the statue's feet in Daniel 7, the Beast from the Sea in Revelation) and then he starts talking about Glick (the clay in the statue's feet, the Beast from the Earth). Too bad he didn't name names, it would have made things much simpler.
  4. I believe that the 3.5 years of persecution does not mean that Israel will be over-run for 3.5 years. I believe it is referring to the persecution of the Arab-Christians (which started in mid 2014) and will end with ISIS invading Israel and Egypt. For example, Revelation describes a woman with a crown of 12 stars, clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet. Most people know that the woman is Israel and the 12 stars are the 12 tribes of Israel and the sun is Jesus. However, the moon under her feet is obviously the destruction of islam. Revelation goes on to say that the dragon tries to attack the woman (i.e. Israel) with a flood but the earth swallowed up the water. I believe this is the flood of refugees which have pretty much bypassed Israel. BUT then the dragon goes on to persecute the woman's other children - the Christians. And that's exactly what ISIS have done. They have started with the Arab-Christians. Revelation says "...the dragon stood on the seashore". That part literally happened. ISIS beheaded Christians on the seashore!
  5. I used to think that Glick was one of the 2 witnesses. I am sure now that I was wrong. I believe the 2 witnesses are the Syrian Christians and the Egyptian Coptic Christians. They survived in the Middle East despite islam. They endured for 42 months (which means 42 months * 30 days/month = 1260 years).
  6. The "bodies" of the 2 witnesses that were not allowed to be buried is happening now. The beheading of the Christians is on the internet and people all over the world are watching it over and over again.
  7. I believe that ISIS has not attacked Israel yet because God is giving Israel time to repent. Read Ezekiel 6-8 to see the laundry list of problems that God has against Israel. I'm not picking on the Jews...God is. Once God is finished punishing Israel and the surrounding nations, He will punish the rest of the nations. But God is very clear about the sins that Israel are guilty of. He accuses them of worshiping false gods in their high places, of worshiping statues and animals carvings on the wall, and building a false idol next to His dwelling. He says that His children think they are innocent but they are guilty. I think He is referring to the Bahai gardens build on a hill in Haifa. I think He is referring to the cult sites unearthed in the mountains in the Negev. I think He is talking about the statues in the Jerusalem Bible Lands museum. I think He is talking about the ancient roman statues recently found off the coast of Caesarea. One of these statues is of a false goddess with a crescent moon on her head! To us these are just artifacts, but to Him they are insulting. The Jews think they are innocent because modern society has brainwashed us into thinking that we must respect all religions. But to respect islam, or buddhism or hinduism etc. is a clear violation of the 1st and most important commandment. Israel needs to get rid of that crap. And most of all they should destroy the dome and al-aqsa...but they are too scared because they refuse to put their faith in Him. I don't meant that Jews should pray on the Temple Mount...but they should be brave enough to get rid of the monstrosities standing there.
  8. The Beast from the Earth has 2 horns. I am not sure if this means that this "beast" consists of 2 people. I think one of these horns is Glick. Maybe the other horn is Netanyahu...I'm really not sure.
  9. Jesus said "When you see the abomination spoken of by Daniel, then let the reader understand. Run to the mountains." I think that the abomination is Glick standing on the Temple Mount even though he ihas been banned from ascending the Temple Mount.
  10. I know Glick seems nice and reasonable...but really listen to what he wants to accomplish. He thinks the Temple Mount should be open to all religions for prayer. God hates it when we worship false idols! He hates that we even have one statue on display in a museum. So there is no way that He is going to tolerate His children walking arm-in-arm with muslims up to His house! Besides, the Davidic covenant says that only a descendent from King David can build an occupy the Temple. That's obviously Jesus and NO ONE ELSE, certainly not Glick.
  11. The Beast from the Sea in Revelation has recovered from a head wound. This is describing the emergence of ISIS after the fall of the Ottoman empire. But the Beast from the Earth is different from the Beast from the Sea. This beast is conniving and hard to recognize. This beast "was wounded by the sword yet lives". Glick was shot and now he's running up and down the Temple Mount (or at least he was until he joined the knesset).
  12. I wish the people in Israel would just leave. I don't want to see the horrible things described in "Lamentations" happen to them. I feel as though God is giving them a grace period of 70 bible years (or 69 calendar years). I have NO BIBLICAL evidence for this, I'm just guessing this. Israel was formed in 1948. If we add on 69 years that gets us to 2017. If I was living there, I would pack my bags and run...NOW.
    One person below made a case that the Temple must be rebuilt because John is told to measure the Temple but leave out the courtyard because it has been given over to the gentiles. In my opinion, I think God is counting the number of Jews and Christians who follow Glick up the Temple Mount when they should know better than to do this. I don't think a physical Temple will exist when this happens. Maybe Glick will drag some sort of altar up to the Mount but I don't think a Temple will exist (at least not one that our eyes can see).
    I am not totally convinced about my theories. If Glick really was the anti-Christ then people who know their God would be getting killed in the process of opposing him (this is from Daniel 11). This hasn't happened yet. The only people around Glick who are getting killed are Palestinian terrorists. So I have no evidence that this part of the prophecy has occurred yet. I do know that I truly believe that there is a good chance that Jesus will return soon. I'm excited and scared and frustrated because no one believes me.
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DK
You said “ The tribulation began May 20, 2011.”
If that were so, it would have ended in May 2018. This is June 2020.

Just curious where your thoughts are today?
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Anonymous
The Jews believed that Elijah would return before the coming of the messiah and yet it was John the Baptist who instead came in the spirit of Elijah. Maybe this temple puzzle is not as black and white as it first looks.
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kennethcadwell
I can point to scriptures from the OT and NT that show a rebuilt temple during the Tribulation, but to not make this response to a long drawn out one I will simply use one from Revelation and show those who propose a "No Temple" philosophy ignore or falsely misapply this chapter. In Revelation 11 we see John given a reed to measure the temple, and those who propose the "No Temple" view point misapply this being a physical temple on earth because of Revelation 11:19. The reason they misapply this is because they don't want to see that Revelation 11:1-14 are events on earth as shown by verses 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12, 13. Also these first 14 scriptures in Revelation 11 are happening under the 6th Trumpet. Revelation 11:15 is the start of the 7th Trumpet being blown, thus verse 19 is an event that is done under the 7th Trumpet and not the 6th. The two prophets prophecy in front of the temple !!!
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richardreinhart
I've been studying this in scripture and would like to point out that none of the passages addressing the physical temple being present when Jesus returns say it was something that Christianity is part of doing. We all know Judaism is still alive and well and it is the Jews who are going to rebuild the temple on the present Temple Mount where stands the "Dome of the Rock" today. Do a google search for the "Temple Institute" or "Breaking Israel News" and you will discover on those sites that the institute has built the alters of burnt offering and Incense, has the temple utensils prepared, are training specific Jewish priest to perform temple ceremonies and have plans for a march to the mount to lay the cornerstone for the new temple. They have even produced a 3D animated video of what the new temple will look like, I've watched it. Furthermore, in v. 2 Jesus is predicting the destruction of the temple building which occurred in 70 AD when the Romans conquered Jerusalem. It is later Matt. 24 [vs. 15] where Jesus talks about the "abomination that causes desolation standing in the holy place [refers to Daniel 12:11]." Standing "in" the holy place, we all know of only one holy place in scripture and it is in the temple. So for the abomination to stand in the holy place near the time of Jesus return which is the theme of Matt.24 there has to be a new temple and the current progress on this newest 4th temple in Israels history gives undeniable testimony to the fact that a new functional temple is being built.
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Anonymous
The abomination of desolation was obviously Titus and his Roman Legions as they marched into the temple and desecrated it before burning it to the ground. Thus the abomination of desolation prophecy was fulfilled in 70 AD and does not necessarily need to be fulfilled again. Just as Daniel's prophecy of the abomination of desolation was fulfilled in 167-68 BC by Antiochus. If the prophecy does have a re-ocurring fulfillment, and it is referring to the final antichrist, this would be the way Christians would know without a shadow of a doubt that he was in-fact the man of lawlessness spoken of by Paul in 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2. As Jesus will not set foot in a rebuilt jewish temple, or give His approval of such. To do so is to trample on the blood of Christ, as going back to types and shadows, rather than fully accepting the once and for all sacrifice of Christ on the cross for our atonement.
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richardreinhart
Hey Ken, thanks for your thoughts buddy, looks like you study end times a fair bit. I am giving you this link to the article I wrote on my bible Blog which deals more fully with this prophecy. The key thing for me is that Jesus indicates in Matt. 24 near the end of the passage that His coming is "right on the door step" of all these Matt. 24 signs, nobody will ever convince me that almost 2000 years after the 70 A.D. destruction constitutes a "right at the door time period. Another thing is that of course the Jews are wrong in not accepting the new covenant, they rejected Jesus and are still looking for a political/military conqueror. They're building the temple with that in mind, nowhere in any of the prophecy's does it say they are right in rebuilding the temple, they are clearly wrong in denying Jesus is the Messiah. What this opens up the Jews for is that they will accept the "man of lawlessness" as their Messiah because he will a political/military conqueror. When, he breaks the peace covenant and conquers Jerusalem they will see how wrong they are. Then the two witnesses will come during the great tribulation and preach the gospel and their will be a revival of the Jews at that time. If they don't respond to the gospel at that time, more of them certainly will when Jesus shows , they will when Jesus shows up shortly afterwards, they won't be able to deny it then. In the article I tell of a study I did on the land of Israel and whether it is still in view in the end times or if it was already fulfilled as you amillennial believers believe. I studied every single reference to the land from Genesis to Revelation, it took me 5 years to complete the study, the most significant thing I learned is that there are two references in Scripture that plainly state that the land of Israel is an eternal covenant. I Chronicles !5:15-17 is one, and the other is somewhere in Psalms. There are other things I found in reading through Judges that indicate that the Israelites did not entirely conquer the land which didn't fulfill the specific terms of the covenant at the start of Joshua where it says that God would give them "every place where they set their foot," [Josh. 1:1-5] enough said, here is where you will find my article. it is the site called "The Bible Measures It" it comes up as the second link I believe. On the site you will see the "end times signs" tab, open the "Abomination that Causes Desolation" article and read away. I'll be interested to hear your comments back Ken. TTLY
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Anonymous
Are you saying that a temple built by man will be a holy place? There is only one holy temple. The biblical description of it's foundations and cornerstone are clear. It is a temple not made by hands. When the veil was torn by God it signified that the Holy of holies was accessible to man. To rebuild a temple and call it holy is an abomination and against everything put in place by God and makes a mockery of His sacrifice.
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richardreinhart
No I'm not saying it will be a true holy place, I believe it just like you just described Mags. Matt. 24 merely says that the "abomination that causes desolation" which will be a statue or symbol of some sort that will be set up in the "holy place." It doesn't say it is right in God's eyes, it just states that a temple will be standing when that time period comes. Judaizers in Jesus day, and in contemporary society never accepted Jesus as the Messiah, but they should have. When Jesus returns, they will certainly know their mistake. But it's pretty compelling to take notice that the Jews are fully prepared to build a 3rd temple as soon as they can gain control of the temple mount. Those who believe in the a-millennial view point of end times believe this happened already in 70 A.D. when the Romans destroyed the second temple and drove the Jews out of Jerusalem. They also set up a Roman banner or symbol of some sort on the outside of the eastern gate. I don't hold on to my pre-mill. viewpoint so tightly that I can't see that is a distinct possibility as well. But for me, the problem comes with the fact that the abomination" or 'insignia' which the Romans set up, was not 'in' the temple but placed on the outside of the eastern gate. The holy place is the temple itself in which the most holy of holies resides with the ark of the covenant, Aaron's staff, and a piece of shew bread inside. The symbol should have been set up in the outer holy place to properly fulfill the prophecy, in my mind that is.
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Anonymous
Well said
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Upfrontsmith
To answer the question, does the temple need to be rebuilt? First who wants the temple rebuilt? As to which Israel wants the temple rebuilt? You know maybe God has His hand against the rebuilding of the temple. And why you may ask. All because Christ Jesus words would come back to Him unfulfilled. Did not Christ Jesus say in Matthew 24:2, that not one stone will be left upon one another. Christ Jesus never gave prophecy that the temple would be rebuilt. Only there will not be one stone left upon one another that shall not be thrown down.By this statement of Christ Jesus shows that the temple will not be rebuilt.not one of the disciples were given prophecy to for tell of the rebuilding of the temple by God or Christ Jesus. The Question is, where do people get that the temple has to be rebuilt, when in fact neither God or Christ Jesus ever gave prophecy to rebuild the temple. So where do people get this from?
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nathanchronister
Learning this as we speak. It seems to stem from a misapplication of the Daniel 9 prophecy in which they break the 70 weeks which predicted Messiah's first return and take that last week and put it at the end with a 7yr trib.
You know, the stuff that Hal Lindsey and the Left Behind rapture doctrines teach.
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kennethcadwell
Nathan in Daniel 9 it clearly states that Jesus is crucified right after the 69th week had finished. This means the 70th week comes after His crucifixion, not before it, and to determine exactly when this 70th week is to be fulfilled you have to take and cross reference this with Daniel 10-12, Isaiah, and Jeremiah.
The very next event stated in Daniel 9 after it says Jesus was cut off (crucified) is the destruction of the temple, which did not happen tell 70 A.D. That puts the next event stated more then 7 years after the 69th week.
It states in Daniel 9 then in the last verses of the A.O.D., and this is clearly shown not to have happened yet by Jesus in Matthew 24 as He states still a future event to come. Then in Revelation 13 the A.O.D. is shown !!!
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Upfrontsmith
If I may ask, as to who is the dead in Christ in 1Thess 4:16?
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louisekayamixschmaling
The two witnesses.
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Upfrontsmith
That is right,they are the words of the false witnesses in Mark 14:58. But however in John 2:19 we find the very words of Jesus to be --"Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up" John 2:19.
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louisekayamixschmaling
Jesus is speaking of his body. In John 2:19
John had a vision in Revelation 11:1
1And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty [and] two months. 3And I will give [power] unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred [and] threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
KJV.
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coolblueeyes
i do believe we are in the end of the bible tribulations,, and it is just a matter of time we will hear the trumpets,, an see our lord and savior coming down from heaven,,i cant wait i just hope its in our time and we will witness it,, im excited and pray for his return ,,, no mater when it is i will keep my faith that he will come to take us home,,
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Upfrontsmith
coolblueeyes, if I may ask, do you know as to who it is that comes first,?
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Anonymous
2 Thessalonians was written well before any of Epistles where Paul built his Church as the Temple Doctrine.
Paul is referring to an Unmistakable event. A Spiritual Temple interpretation allows it to be anything. Paul was referring to something his readers could be certain had not yet happened.
Jesus also refers to the Abomination of Desolation IN The Holy Place.
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Upfrontsmith
If I may for say, at the time of disciple Paul, that in Jerusalem there was the temple. Do you know what is the Abomination of Desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet?
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Anonymous
It is an Idol in the Holy Place, something that hasn't happened yet. Jesus clarified it is yet Future.
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nathanchronister
Yes it has.... it was future to Jesus, but in A.D. 66 Cestius surrounded Jerusalem and for no apparent reason, withdrew his troops. Christians discerned this as the sign spoken of by Jesus and fled. Eusibius and Josephus confirm this.
Eusebius Pamphilius (325)
"But the number of calamities which every where fell upon the nation at that time; the extreme misfortunes to which the inhabitants of Judea were especially subjected, the thousands of men, as well as women and children, that perished by the sword, by famine, and by other forms of death innumerable,--all these things, as well as the many great sieges which were carried on against the cities of Judea, and the excessive. sufferings endured by those that fled to Jerusalem itself, as to a city of perfect safety, and finally the general course of the whole war, as well as its particular occurrences in detail, and how at last the abomination of desolation, proclaimed by the prophets, stood in the very temple of God, so celebrated of old, the temple which was now awaiting its total and final destruction by fire,-- all these things any one that wishes may find accurately described in the history written by Josephus." (Book III, Ch. 5)
Please look at history and see that almost everything that is applied to a future event has already happened.
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Anonymous
NO Idol was IN The Holy of Holies.
And Paul Clarifies it is a Man proclaiming himself God.
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nathanchronister
Do you mean something like this?? If this is not the papacy proclaiming themselves to be god on earth and literally the earthly substitute of Christ.... lo, the abomination that makes desolate.
"The Pope is of so great dignity, and so exalted that he is not a mere man, but as it were God. and the vicar of God." -Ferraris Ecclesiastical dictionary
"All names which in the Scriptures are applied to Christ, by virtue of which it is established that He is over the church, all the same names are applied to the Pope." - On the Authority of the Councils, book 2, chapter 17
"The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth." Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Chapter XXVII, p. 218, "Cities Petrus Bertanous".
"...the Pope is as it were God on earth, sole sovereign of the faithful of Christ, chief of kings, having plenitude of power." Lucius Ferraris, in "Prompta Bibliotheca Canonica, Juridica, Moralis, Theologica, Ascetica, Polemica, Rubristica, Historica", Volume V, article on "Papa, Article II", titled "Concerning the extent of Papal dignity, authority, or dominion and infallibility", #1, 5, 13-15, 18, published in Petit-Montrouge (Paris) by J. P. Migne, 1858 edition.
"The Pope takes the place of Jesus Christ on earth...by divine right the Pope has supreme and full power in faith, in morals over each and every pastor and his flock. He is the true vicar, the head of the entire church, the father and teacher of all Christians. He is the infallible ruler, the founder of dogmas, the author of and the judge of councils; the universal ruler of truth, the arbiter of the world, the supreme judge of heaven and earth, the judge of all, being judged by no one, God himself on earth." Quoted in the New York Catechism.
-Writers on the Canon Law say, "The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in heaven and earth."- Barclay Cap. XXVII, p. 218. Cities Petrus Bertrandus, Pius V. - Cardinal Cusa supports his statement.
"...the power of the priest is the power of the divine person; for the transubstantiation of the bread requires as much power as the creation of the world. ...thus the priest may be called the creator of the Creator..." -The dignity of the priesthood by Liguori, p. 33
"...the priesthood is the most sublime of al created dignities:... an infinite dignity ...an astounding miracle, great, immense, and infinite...exalted...above all celestial heights..." -The dignity of the priesthood, by Liguori
"The leader of the Catholic church is defined by the faith as the Vicar of Jesus Christ (and is accepted as such by believers). The Pope is considered the man on earth who takes the place of the Second Person of the omnipotent God of the Trinity." (John Paul II, Crossing the Threshold of Hope, p. 3, 1994).
"The Pope is not simply the representative of Jesus Christ. On the contrary, he is Jesus Christ Himself, under the veil of the flesh, and who by means of a being common to humanity continues His ministry amongst men ... Does the Pope speak? It is Jesus Christ Who is speaking. Does he teach? It is Jesus Christ Who teaches. Does he confer grace or pronounce an anathema? It is Jesus Christ Himself Who is pronouncing the anathema and conferring the grace. Hence consequently, when one speaks of the Pope, it is not necessary to examine, but to obey: there must be no limiting the bounds of the command, in order to suit the purpose of the individual whose obedience is demanded: there must be no caviling at the declared will of the Pope, and so invest it with quite another than that which he has put upon it: no preconceived opinions must be brought to bear upon it: no rights must be set up against the rights of the Holy Father to teach and command; his decisions are not to be criticized, or his ordinances disputed. Therefore by Divine ordination, all, no matter how august the person may be — whether he wear a crown or be invested with the purple, or be clothed in the sacred vestments: all must be subject to Him Who has had all things put under Him." -Evangelical Christendom, January 1, 1895, pg. 15, published in London by J. S. Phillips.
-These words appeared in the Roman Canon Law: "To believe that our Lord God the Pope has not the power to decree as he is decreed, is to be deemed heretical.-I?i the Gloss "Extravagantes" o.f Pope John XXII Cum inter, Tit. XIV, Cap. IV. Ad Callem Sexti Decretalium, Paris, 1685. (See actual document here)
-Father A. Pereira says: "It is quite certain that Popes have never approved or rejected this title 'Lord God the Pope,' for the passage in the gloss referred to appears in the edition of the Canon Law published in Rome in 1580 by Gregory XIII."
"It seems that Pope John Paul II now presides over the universal Church from his place upon Christ's cross." "Auckland Bishop Says Pope Presides From the Cross" AUCKLAND, New Zealand, SEPT. 20, 2004, https://Zenit.org
"In founders and foundresses [of the consecrated orders of nuns and priests, etc.] we see a constant and lively sense of the Church, which they manifest by their full participation in all aspects of the Church's life, and in their ready obedience to the bishops and especially to the Roman Pontiff. Against this background of love towards Holy Church, 'the pillar and bulwark of the truth' (1 Tim 3:15), we readily understand the devotion of Saint Francis of Assisi for 'THE LORD POPE', the daughterly outspokenness of Saint Catherine of Siena towards the one whom she called 'SWEET CHRIST ON EARTH', the apostolic obedience and the sentire cum Ecclesia of Saint Ignatius Loyola, and the joyful profession of faith made by Saint Teresa of Avila: 'I am a daughter of the Church'. We can also understand the deep desire of Saint Theresa of the Child Jesus: 'In the heart of the Church, my mother, I will be love'. These testimonies are representative of the full ecclesial communion which the Saints, founders and foundresses, have shared in diverse and often difficult times and circumstances. They are examples which consecrated persons need constantly to recall if they are to resist the particularly strong centrifugal and disruptive forces at work today. A distinctive aspect of ecclesial communion is allegiance of mind and heart to the magisterium of the bishops, an allegiance which must be lived honestly and clearly testified to before the People of God by all consecrated persons, especially those involved in theological research, teaching, publishing, catechesis and the use of the means of social communication. Because consecrated persons have a special place in the church, their attitude in this regard is of immense importance for the whole people of God" (Pope John Paul II, "Apostolic Exhortation on the Consecrated Life and Its Mission in the Church and in the World," to the bishops and clergy, religious orders and congregations, societies of apostolic life, secular institutes, and all the faithful, given in Rome, at Saint Peter's, March 25, 1996) (Emphasis added)
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nathanchronister
Good luck with your tainted understanding. Rome (papacy) is the anti-christ power and they were at work even in Paul's day.
I could provide a ton of historical proof of this, but your mind is made up. Good luck waiting for that single man anti-christ.
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Anonymous
It was the Catholics who invented the idea of Babylon being Code for Rome in order to justify their totally UnBiblical Doctrine of Peter traveling there.
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denisemcclurg
The Church of Nativity March 22 , 2009 .
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Anonymous
I would say if we wanted to look for a literal person who sat on the temple and would then later declare himself a living god, we should look not further than Domitian. He and his brother, Titus were the generals who destroyed Jerusalem, under the command of their father. Strategically the temple would be a good spot to demoralize the enemy (Jews) and watch the destruction of the city.
Domitian would later succeed his father and brother as the emperor or Rome. He set up a very strict emperor worship system and heavily persecuted the Christians in a way of not only death, but also financial. Domitian made the citizens place a pinch of incense on an alter and say that Caesar is god. Unlike Nero who persecuted the Christians in a limited way that did not spread past Rome, Domitian had his decrees spread to all the empire. Most believe that he was the real beginning of the Great Christian Persecution that would last around three hundred years.
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kennethcadwell
What alter are you speaking about here, because if you have knowledge of this history then you would know that Titus never ordered the destruction of the temple. His soldiers disobeyed his orders and burned it down instead, thus there was no alter no longer in the temple as it was destroyed.
The rest I can pretty much agree with but as for the temple it was destroyed in 70 A.D. under Titus.
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Anonymous
I would add Mark 13:14, But when you see the Abomination of Desolation standing where it should not be (let the reader understand), then those who are in Judea should flee to the mountains." The Abomination of Desolation is a "type" that was defined by Antiochus Epiphanes IV when he sacrificed a pig on the Temple Altar in 168BC and rendered the Temple unclean and no longer available to Jews for worship. Until the Temple was cleansed some 42 months later by the Maccabeans, the sacrifices and other worship activities were not possible to Jews.
The latest abomination of desolation is represented by the Dome of the Rock constructed by Islam in 691BC following the Muslim conquest of Jerusalem in 638 BC. Jerusalem Christians surrendered to Islam at this time and with the exception of 99 years when the crusaders held Jerusalem, the Temple Mount has been desecrated by the Muslim edifices thereon. The Dome of the Rock is constructed over the Foundation Stone, previously located in the Holy of Holies in the 2nd Temple (destroyed by Romans in 70 AD) and literally is "standing where it should not be," atop the Foundation Stone where the presence of God literally dwelt. The Dome of the Rock descecrates the Temple Mount in the same way that Antiochus Ephiphanes did so, both being "abomination desolations."
2 Thess 2:7 refers to the "mystery of lawlessness" present in the world tthat "is already at work." The mystery of lawlessness and the man of lawlessness are one and the same -- the spirit of antichrist that functions in the world until the literal Antichrist arises in the end of days as the last false prophet. The point is that the Dome of the Rock is representative of Muhammad and the blasphemy of Christ that Islam represents through Muhammad's Night Journey that is commemorated by the Dome of the Rock. It sits atop the Foundation Stone declaring to the world that Muhammad is superior to Christianity and to Jesus Christ. Hence, Muhammad "takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God." Muhammad continues to "live" today through the beliefs of Muslims as the perfect human being and the last prophet, the seal of the prophets, who "trumps" Jesus Christ because both were prophets and since Muhammad is the last, his message trumps that of Jesus.
The Temple does not have to be refuilt in order for the man of lawlessness to "take his seat" there. Muhammad has been sitting there for 1400 years.
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kennethcadwell
Problem here Jack as the Dome of the Rock is not the "temple of God" because the Muslims do not worship our God. Do not let Catholic doctrine fool you to think so, because the Word of God clearly states if you deny the Son you deny the Father. The Muslims do not believe Jesus was the Son of God, they believe He was just a great teacher or prophet. Therefore Mohammad standing in the Dome of the Rock does not work to fulfill this prophecy, because it has to be a temple to the true God !!!
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Anonymous
"Pastor Dave" fails to apply the Law of Double Reference interpretation principle, neglecting the application to Antiochus IV Epiphanes, who called himself "God Manifested" (= God in person). There will be a second instance, in which the Antichrist will sit in a temple (postulated as the reconstructed Jewish Temple), forcing the world to honor an abomination (an image of himself, perhaps) that performs Satanic miracles. For this all to fulfill Scriptural prophecy, there must be a temple, and it must be in Jerusalem, and it must be a replacement of the Second Temple destroyed in 70 A. D. "Pastor Dave" is trying to supplant literal prophecy by claiming the metaphor of a spiritual temple replacing a real, physical temple. This is a weak ploy that is counter to the greater context of dispensational eschatology.
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Anonymous
IT WILL BE AT LEAST -7O- YEAR'S ...GOD'S ...WORD... SAY'S
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denisemcclurg
70 years from 1947 :)
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tommco
Or 1967.
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israelbentzadok
You have to remember that Paul and all others falling Jesus, believed he was coming very soon. He said in Matthew 24:15-21, When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be [Matthew 24:15-21]. Daniel wrote, And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book [Daniel 12:1]. So, we see the connection between Daniel and Jesus' words. Paul's writings and the book of Revelation points Jesus' immediate return. God the Almighty has the time fixed by His own authority and the apostles were also aware of this but they taught all to be ready for his return. This Anti-Christ is to arrive was to take Israel captive for a period of time as Zechariah 14:1-2 instructs as by saying, "Behold, a day is coming for the Lord, when the spoil taken from you will be divided in your midst. For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city shall be taken and the houses plundered and the women raped. Half of the city shall go out into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be cut off from the city [Zech 14:1-2]. The Anti-Christ is suppose to be as evil king was in the time of 170BCE and the Roman ruler that destroyed the Temple. He actually claim to be a god and Rome declared him god. The Anti-Christ will proclaim such but he does not have to sit a temple to fulfill prophesy, because there is no prophesy that says such. Paul's day there was a temple standing... The Religious Zionist who rule the Religious power in Israel will never build a temple... They believe that the Mashiach will be the temple or as in Ezekiel 42-48 the temple comes down from above. Paul was talking the temple in his time... The third Temple will come from above as described in Ezekiel 42-48. ~Ben-Tzadok
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Anonymous
If that were true oblivious one there wouldn't be a many years old Judaic organization trying to rebuild it, and they are apparently close. Your mere stating a thing is true doesn't make it so, get evidence and stop verse bombing.
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Anonymous
I agree that this interpretation is way off base. Where will the Antichrist sit, within a spiritual temple/body? (2 Thess 2,4) Is he saying that the Antichrist will sit within a Born Again Christian that has the spirit of God within Him. That is impossible,
Satan can't possess a Christian he can only influence them, God will not share
is dwelling place with Satan. Paul is talking about a physical place.
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Upfrontsmith
Do you know what is ment by born again, born of the water and of the Spirit, unless a person is born from above they shall not see the kingdom of God.
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Exceptbypermit
I am discouraged by reading this incomplete view! Obviously Christians know that the temple of God is within us, and the Spirit of God dwells in us - 1 Cor. 3:16. As far as Hagee & others go, they are accountable before God like any of us are!
The 'temple of God, setting himself forth, saying that he is God ' in 2 Thes. 2:4; this indeed is the "the holy place" in Matt. 24:15, indicating that the Old Testament Jewish temple of God will be rebuilt before the Lord comes back.
Matthew 24:15; "Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, STANDING in the holy place (let him who reads understand)"
Abomination denotes an idol (Deut. 29:17). Here it refers to Antichrist's image, which will be set up as an idol in the temple of God (Rev. 13:14-15; 2 Thes. 2:4) at the beginning of the great tribulation (v. 21). Hence, this idol will be another sign of the consummation of this age.
The abomination, the image of Antichrist, will cause desolation. Antichrist is called "the destroyer" (Apollyon — Rev. 9:11); he will do much destroying (Dan. 8:13, 23-25; 9:27).
Revelation 13:14-15 "And he deceives those who dwell on the earth on account of the signs which he was given power to do before the beast, commanding those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast, who had the stroke of the sword and revived. And power was given to him to give breath to the image of the beast that the image of the beast might even speak and cause whoever would not worship the image of the beast to be killed."
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Upfrontsmith
The question is, have you any idea as to who the Antichrist is, who is the man of sin the Son of perdition, the angel of the bottomless pit, the beast that comes up out of the sea who is the beast that comes up out of the earth,Who are they?To answer this question. There is only one entity that has stood as God's adversary.The question is, who is he?
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denisemcclurg
I agree with this article...March 22 , 2013 .
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Anonymous
I believe the evidence that Pastor Doug has presented proving a real temple won't be rebuilt is correct. However, there is some evidence...and George Vandeman seemed to find it compelling...that the Vatican will build some kind of a palace in the temple mount. This is from Daniel 11:45. Please note: this may not be the place we think of today as the temple mount. I saw some pretty compelling evidence based on the testimony of Josephus that the place we think of now as the temple area was actually a Roman Garrison.
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Now 11 years later!!! The Vatican has built 3 Temples. In Abu Dhabi they have a Synagogue, a Mosque, and a Catholic Church. In November 2022 the Pope came down with 10 New (blasphemous) 10 . Commandments. There was a dedication to the 3 temples called "The Abrahamic Centre". Who's to say that this may be the temple where the Antichrist sits and declares himself God. Why would the Elite build this? Why all the "dark" dedications to this place?
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richardreinhart
Wendy, you need to do a google search under the name "Temple Institute", it is a Jewish institute that is preparing the temple for building. They have already built the alters of burnt offering and incense, prepared the temple utensils, are training specific priests to perform temple ceremonies and are planning a march to the mount to lay the cornerstone for the new temple. "Breaking Israel News" is an online publication that reports on much of what is happening with temple preparations.
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Anonymous
The “ temple institute” is just one of the many Jewish denominations who have got their own flawed ideas of the coming of the Lord. They are called ultra-orthodox and radicals, but lack the political decision-making powers, so their ideas are irrelevant to reality.
When Christ was born, there were also different denominations like Pharisees, Sadducees, Zealots, and so forth. These were the very groups that led the campaign to reject Christ, and only a handful of his disciples came from the denominational ranks.
In the same way today, there are more than ten different denominations of Judaism, which includes your temple institute, but when Christ finally comes, they will reject him again like their predecessors/fathers. Not all Israel is Israel.
The only temple that’s Scriptural is a Spiritual Temple
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Anonymous
Agree
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Anonymous
You are correct , the actual location of the temple is in the city of David , and the Catholics are actually trying to purchase or secure that site in some way as we all set and discuss this , the scriptures to back the true location up are as follows ;
2 Chronicles 3:1 the threshing floor where God told David to build His temple
Matthew 24:1-2 temple location ref
2 Samuel 5:7 Mt Zion City of David
Joel 3:17 Our Lord dwells in Zion - City of David
And Eleazer @ Massada was an eye witness to the destruction of the Templ "all that is left of Jerusalem is the roman fort on my Moriah
Sacrifices need a water source - Joel 3:18 water flows from Gihon Springs in city of David
Ezekiel 47:1 water in temple
Psalms 2:6
Psalms 9:11
Acts 21:30-31 the soldiers leaving fort had to go down to the temple ...
The Crusades actually began the misconception of Templ location
70ad Josephus was an eye witness and he refers to roman fort being above the Templ
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Anonymous
Yes good points
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Anonymous
The physical and spirtiaul temple in which the "man of lawlessness" now sits exists in the Vatican in Rome...Revelation 17
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Upfrontsmith
As to where do you get that or how do you get that out of Revelation 17,have you any idea as to who that woman and beast represents?
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Anonymous
This commentary is completely false.  In Matthew 24 Jesus Himself states that when the anti-Christ  dwells in the temple, it's time to run away.  Revelation also refers to this event.  The temple has to exist for the anti-Christ to dwell in the temple.  Check your bible.
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Anonymous
Not sure what version you are reading. My Bible says: "Matt 15 "So when you see the abomination of desolation - spoken about by Daniel the prophet - standing in the holy place (let the reader understand),". Nothing connoting a physical place or building at all. If Satan will be in form of a person and were to stand in the Holy Place (presumably the Temple Mount area), what need is there for a physical building? There in no mention of a temple in this version. (N English Trans). Today this could happen in Jerusalem as that area is presently constructed. Might be a translation issue. I need to go reference a few other Bible versions. Thoughts?
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Anonymous
Premillennialists don't purport that the Jewish temple is essential to their salvation. Only that it will be done in the time of the end. That the "man of lawlessness" will take his seat in the 'temple of God', it doesn't necessarily mean that God approves of their futile form of worship. (Hosea 6:6)